I have been reading your questions about bed wetting for older children 4-5 years old. We have not used pull ups since spring. My son is a deep sleeper and using a pad and bell alarm for 8 weeks. He has been dry 4 nights total, otherwise wetting 3-4 times a night and not waking up. He is starting to wet at nap time at daycare and is really embarrassed. Do I stay with the routine and something will click one day? How long do we stay with the alarm before a special trip to the doctor for this problem?